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Home » Topics » Eldorado Mark 1? Pre-restoration questions

Eldorado Mark 1? Pre-restoration questions

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Tagged: Eldorado, Mark 1, restoration, slate thickness

  • This topic has 32 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 5 years ago by Stephen Bell.
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  • May 2, 2020 at 1:54 am #1886
    ValeroValero
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    • This reply was modified 5 years ago by ValeroValero.
    May 4, 2020 at 12:52 pm #1888
    John Rainville
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    Valero, et al,

    I picked up my table yesterday.  Although I am excited to get started refurbishing this table to playable status,   I have concluded that it is NOT an Irving Kaye table. Too many differences. Ball return at end in a tray vice on the side, no markings, no corner brackets , small machine feet. I have attached a photo of the original rail and rubber, so I will have to custom cut some rails on my table saw. Thanks for all the pictures and history. I think the German thing is particularly interesting. 80C90AC1-4D08-4EC7-9D97-DC213606BD68

    May 5, 2020 at 2:39 am #1890
    ValeroValero
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    John- that is also my guess. In the decades after the war, steel was much rarer and more expensive in many countries than in America. Also machines to deform this steel. However, the upper pockets corners cannot be handcrafted in the large quantities that the factory requires. As an alternative, only a strip of sheet metal was mounted on the board where the player could put his cigarette down. In poorer countries, therefore, very little steel was used on pool tables and other machines such as jukeboxes. It was then often improvised with other materials.

    When you rebuild the rails you have to pay close attention to the angle. If the edge of the cushion is too low, the ball jumps and if it is too high, the ball is braked.

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    May 5, 2020 at 2:42 am #1891
    ValeroValero
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    These are the cushions of an Irving Kaye

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    May 5, 2020 at 2:42 am #1892
    ValeroValero
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    May 5, 2020 at 2:43 am #1893
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    May 5, 2020 at 2:43 am #1894
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    May 5, 2020 at 2:52 am #1895
    ValeroValero
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    But if you have to make the rails new and the old rubbers are bad, you should consider cutting the new rails so that the K66 fits on them. This is a profile that you can get anywhere in the accessories trade. The result is optically the same, only the cushions can be changed without problems in the future.

    regards, Valero

    • This reply was modified 5 years ago by ValeroValero.
    May 5, 2020 at 3:02 am #1897
    ValeroValero
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    And a regular replacement of the cushions always serves to enjoy playing. Nothing depresses more than a ball that falls asleep on the way.

    May 9, 2020 at 4:45 pm #1898
    Stephen Bell
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    Hi John. I own an Irving Kaye Deluxe Eldorado Mark I and it looks nothing like the table you are considering purchasing. The outside dimensions on mine are 77″ x 44.5″. On the end where the cue-ball comes out there is also a built in slot for holding two or three 48″ pool cues. The body is 2 tone Formica covered and has a sticker saying so. I just joined this forum today but plan to upload some picture of my table soon. Hope this helps.

    Steve

    May 9, 2020 at 4:50 pm #1899
    Stephen Bell
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    May 9, 2020 at 4:54 pm #1900
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    May 9, 2020 at 4:56 pm #1901
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    May 9, 2020 at 8:13 pm #1905
    ValeroValero
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    Hy Stephen-

    Welcome here in the forum! The Eldorado looks great and is in a very good and rare condition. Always good to know that there are lovers who appreciate something and receive it.

    Regards, Valero

    May 11, 2020 at 5:52 pm #1906
    Stephen Bell
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    1964 Eldorado Irving Kaye

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